i understand you are saying that the travel pass is for tourist in wich I am. I will travel for all suiss an lietchenstein. I see the 50 % discount is good. but truly I don understand why the suiss pass you have to put only if you have the travel pass if the travel pass is only for tourist. anywise, I will use a train 3 for houres every 2 days for a month. and I will use busses in the cities of Zermatt and verbier, and going up to mountains in the lifts that I see the suiss pass is good for, but in case you are true, what is the best for me. thank for your time Roland, nice to read you